Wendy Thorogood, Director of the AoCPP, talks to Dr Arnon Bentovim, Jenny Gray OBE and Stephen Pizzey about their recent paper 'Modular approaches to therapeutic work with maltreatment' and how this approach can help professionals support children experiencing adversity.

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In today's episode, Wendy Thorogood, Director of the Association of Child Protection Professionals, talks to Dr Arnon Bentovim, Jenny Gray OBE and Stephen Pizzey about their recent paper 'Modular approaches to therapeutic work with maltreatment' and how this approach can help professionals support children experiencing adversity.

Dr Arnon Bentovim is a Child and Family Psychiatrist, and Director of Child and Family Training. He trained as a Psycho-Analyst and Family Therapist and worked at the Great Ormond Street Children’s Hospital and the Tavistock Clinic. He is also a Visiting Professor at the Royal Holloway University of London. At Great Ormond Street he shared responsibility for Child Protection at the Hospital, and helped to initiate a number of services including the first Sexual Abuse Assessment and Treatment Service in the UK, and a Child Care Consultation Service. Research on Family Assessment formed the basis of the tools commissioned by the Department of Health to support the Assessment Framework. Child and Family Training was established to provide training and further developments.

Jenny Gray OBE has worked in children and families social work, management and policy development since 1979. Jenny joined the Social Services Inspectorate, Department of Health in 1991 and led the development of the new inspection methodologies. In 1995, she was appointed as the professional adviser to the British government on safeguarding children, firstly in the Department of Health and then in the Department for Education. Jenny held this post until September 2012. Jenny is now a social work consultant, working in both the UK and internationally. Jenny is a Child and Family Training Director and an Honorary Lecturer at UCL Great Ormond Street Institute of Child Health, London. Jenny, together with Dr Arnon Bentovim, edited the HfCF Intervention Guides for Practitioners. She delivers training both in the UK and internationally. In 2007, Jenny was awarded The Order of the British Empire and an Honorary Fellowship of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health. She was President and CEO of the International Society for the Prevention of Child Abuse and Neglect from 2012 to 2014.

Stephen Pizzey has been a practising social worker in the field of childcare since 1976. He was a senior social worker specialising in working with adults and children with learning disabilities between 1981 and 1985. He became a team manager in 1985. In 1989, Stephen was appointed as Head of the Social Work Department at Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children and held this post until 1995. He was the Independent Chair of the Haringey Area Child Protection Committee (post-Climbie, 2001-2002). He also held a part time position as a lecturer in social work at Brunel University (2002-2004). Now Stephen is an expert witness and undertakes a range of independent social work assessments for local authorities and reports in actions for damages against local authorities including cases of historical abuse. He has prepared Serious Case Reviews under Working Together to Safeguard Children, investigated complaints made against Local Authorities and voluntary agencies, and prepared child protection procedures for local authorities and Area Child Protection Committees. He is the chair of the Board of Directors of the Child and Family Training

Wendy Thorogood is a retired Designated Nurse Consultant for children. She trained at St Guy's hospital in London, specialising in child and adult nursing, intensive care and cardiac and renal transplants. Wendy delivered the national leadership programme for safeguarding for the Department of Health and worked directly with the NHS Confederation in relation to current changes, including: providing assurance that current and future providers of services are compliant in relation to safeguarding national and local standards; working with Lead Commissioners and the performance team to develop agreed key performance indicators and safety metrics for providers; and identifying and taking appropriate action on key risks and issues across commissioned services that may affect safeguarding of children and young people.


For those listening in the future, this episode is being recorded and published while the UK (and the world) is experiencing the COVID-19 pandemic. Many frontline professionals are finding themselves overworked, time poor and confused as government guidance is changing daily. To alleviate the pressure child protection professionals are under, we created the AoCPP Podcast, which will provide support to these professionals who continue to serve our country, its vulnerable children, and families, in unprecedented circumstances.